{"id":2950,"date":"2020-04-29T11:13:07","date_gmt":"2020-04-29T11:13:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.maxlee.info\/blog\/?p=2950"},"modified":"2020-05-04T11:17:11","modified_gmt":"2020-05-04T11:17:11","slug":"beaten-up-value-stocks-are-offering-opportunities-of-a-generation-fund-manager-says","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.maxlee.info\/blog\/news\/beaten-up-value-stocks-are-offering-opportunities-of-a-generation-fund-manager-says\/","title":{"rendered":"Beaten-up value stocks are offering opportunities of a generation, fund manager says"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>To say value stocks have had a rough time of it is an understatement.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_2951\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2951\" style=\"width: 1200px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/marketwatch-012-1200x675.jpg\" alt=\"A picture taken on October 1, 2012, shows dump trucks carrying the extracted gold ore from the mine site to the processing plant at the Kumtor gold mine in the Tien Shan Mountains, Kyrgyzstan. Kumtor is the largest gold mine in Central Asia that is run by Canada&#039;s Centerra Gold.\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" class=\"size-large wp-image-2951\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.maxlee.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/marketwatch-012-1200x675.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.maxlee.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/marketwatch-012-800x450.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.maxlee.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/marketwatch-012-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.maxlee.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/marketwatch-012.jpg 1320w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2951\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">A picture taken on October 1, 2012, shows dump trucks carrying the extracted gold ore from the mine site to the processing plant at the Kumtor gold mine in the Tien Shan Mountains, Kyrgyzstan. Kumtor is the largest gold mine in Central Asia that is run by Canada&#8217;s Centerra Gold.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Published: April 29, 2020 at 9:12 a.m. ET, By Steve Goldstein<\/p>\n<p>They were out of favor during the bull market that preceded the coronavirus pandemic. During the coronavirus crash, value stocks were the worst performing of the major styles, and they also were the worst in the current recovery. Value stocks relative to growth stocks have fallen to 20-year lows, according to Deutsche Bank data. (Tuesday\u2019s session was a rare exception, with economically sensitive cyclicals and value stocks advancing as health and tech stocks fell.)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe fact that value underperformed for the longest period of time in history I think makes people believe that value is never going to come back. I believe that will be proven wrong,\u201d says Dave Iben, the founder and chief investment officer of Kopernik Global Investors.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe idea that earnings can be plunging and some of these stocks hitting new all time highs, it\u2019s just not going to be sustainable. But even better than that, and who cares if I\u2019m wrong on that \u2014 value stocks are at generational sort of cheap values and so that the bifurcation between some stocks being very loved and some stocks being sold for prices that are a lot lower than they were back 10 or 12 years ago, is what we think is very interesting.\u201d He says he could envision a situation like the dot-com bubble bursting, when value stocks in 2000 and 2001 advanced even as the broader market declined.<\/p>\n<p>Iben is mostly looking outside the U.S. for stocks \u2014 the firm\u2019s global all-cap fund had just 5.5% of its portfolio in U.S. companies at the end of March. While still owning Gazprom US:OGZPY and Sberbank AT:SBER, Iben says he has increasingly taken profits from Russian stocks and invested in South Korean companies.<\/p>\n<p>Telecom KT Corp. US:KT is a big holding, as Iben says the firm is trading at less than book value, at a single-digit price-to-earnings ratio, and at roughly 6 times less per customer than Verizon Communications.<\/p>\n<p>He\u2019s also a big fan of gold miners including Australia\u2019s Newcrest Mining US:NCMGY and Canada\u2019s Centerra Gold CA:CG, noting that the price of gold US:GC00 has gone up 2\u00bd times over the last 12 years, but the mining index has fallen in half.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cGold underground is so cheap that we can buy these companies, pay all the money it takes to build the mines, extract the gold, sell it, and liquidation value is well above the stock prices in some cases,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<p>In fact, he finds a number of commodities undervalued, including copper, natural gas and uranium. \u201cWe like Cameco US:CCJ, we like a lot of the uranium stocks, and we\u2019re once again interested in the gas and oil stocks as prices turn negative.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>General Electric US:GE isn\u2019t a company he would have imagined owning back when the conglomerate sported the world\u2019s largest market cap and was an investor darling. After years of shrinking, dealing with debt, management turnover and write-downs, GE still has a premier jet-engine business and a premier health-care company, he says. Iben says investors now are punishing GE for its exposure to aviation and energy.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cPrice is everything,\u201d he says. \u201cWe think that at $7 we have a lot more upside than we do downside, and so we\u2019re happy to own a company like that, that was once very loved and is now very hated.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>GE on Wednesday missed first-quarter adjusted profit and free cash flow expectations but topped revenue forecasts.<\/p>\n<p><strong>The buzz<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The Federal Reserve\u2019s latest decision is due at 2 p.m. Eastern. With rates nearly at zero, attention will turn to the waves of new programs the central bank has set up to boost lending and its assessment of the economy.<\/p>\n<p>First-quarter GDP slumped 4.8%, even worse than economists had forecast.<\/p>\n<p>Google\u2019s profits were damaged even more than expected as the COVID-19 pandemic caused \u201ca significant slowdown in ad revenues,\u201d parent company Alphabet US:GOOG revealed, as it nonetheless beat estimates on sales.<\/p>\n<p>Plane maker Boeing US:BA reported stronger-than-expected cash flow, with Facebook US:FB , Microsoft US:MSFT and Tesla figures coming after the close.<\/p>\n<p><strong>The market<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>U.S. stock futures US:ES00 were pointing to an upbeat start, with the Dow industrials contract US:YM00 up over 400 points, extending gains as Gilead Sciences US:GILD reported a positive drug trial of its coronavirus treatment.<\/p>\n<p>Oil US:CL futures surged, climbing back above $14 a barrel.<\/p>\n<p>The yield on the Italian 10-year government bond rose 2 basis points, after Fitch Ratings downgraded the country\u2019s credit rating to BBB, which is one notch above junk.<\/p>\n<p><strong>The chart<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/MW-IF437_wellsf_20200429041801_NS.jpg\" alt=\"Bear markets and Bottoming\" width=\"990\" height=\"577\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-2952\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.maxlee.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/MW-IF437_wellsf_20200429041801_NS.jpg 990w, https:\/\/www.maxlee.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/MW-IF437_wellsf_20200429041801_NS-800x466.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.maxlee.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/MW-IF437_wellsf_20200429041801_NS-768x448.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 990px) 100vw, 990px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The Wells Fargo Investment Institute overlaid the current downturn, and recovery, against 2008. The obvious difference between now and the global financial crisis is the quick upturn, and the firm says it has unfavorable view on developed and emerging market equities.<\/p>\n<p>Source: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.marketwatch.com\/story\/where-one-value-fund-manager-is-positioned-overseas-underground-and-dabbling-in-ge-2020-04-29?mod=home-page\">www.marketwatch.com<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>To say value stocks have had a rough time of it is an understatement.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":2951,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[16],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2950","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-news"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.maxlee.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2950","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.maxlee.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.maxlee.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.maxlee.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.maxlee.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2950"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.maxlee.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2950\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.maxlee.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/2951"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.maxlee.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2950"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.maxlee.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2950"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.maxlee.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2950"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}